Paolo: Mookie, thank you so much for being here. When Christine made our introduction, I got a bit starstruck in see all the incredible projects you've been involved in. I read your book and found it a fascinating story. In it you talk about your family trying their fortune in California first and then moving to Charleston in 1980. How was the experience?

Mookie: Yes, it was the end of 1980. I remember because I was about to start high school. In other words, I was around 13. So, I was essentially a kid when we moved here. Charleston was a different place back then. My dad, a popular musician from Charleston, had some privilege that bypassed the harshest racial divides for our family. But the climate was still contentious, and we weren't completely immune. I've seen racial and cultural transformation from the 80s into the very early 90s, and I wrote about it in the book.

Growing up in Charleston during that time was a unique experience. We moved from a more diverse area to the deep South, and the difference was palpable. My parents were unique in several ways. My dad was a very respected musician, and that helped, it create a sort of a buffer. But make no mistake, we felt the undercurrents of segregation and racism. It was a time of significant cultural shifts, and those shifts were not always smooth or welcoming.

My dad's influence was enormous. He was a strict disciplinarian and a martial artist, which instilled in me a sense of discipline and resilience. My mom, on the other hand, was a gentle giant.

She played cello. And she exuded what the cello speaks of. People often ask me musically, what's your favorite music? Who do you like? I listen to Bach, Mendelssohn, Rachmaninoff. I listen to Mozart. When I do my listening, that's what I listen to. I do love hip hop and I'll ride out to that too. But when I'm in my place of passion and my inner sanctum, where I want to be, when I'm alone, I am riding in the car and I'm listening to my beautiful air by Bach. I'm listening to Brahms; that's who I am.

But here's the fun part. From what I know about my mom and dad's union, my dad also had a love for classical music. As a child, he would constantly listen. He would listen to Sam Cooke. He would listen to Elvis Presley. But he wouldn't just listen. He would walk around with his trumpet, playing it along classical pieces. And if anyone knows anything about trumpet and classical music, it's not for the weak. You ain't doing it unless you're a beast. And my dad was a that musical beast, a genius.

Paolo: Let’s talk about your professional journey. How did you transition from a young music enthusiast to a recognized name in the industry?

Mookie: It’s been a long road! I started gigging locally, anywhere they’d let me play. I watched, learned, and absorbed everything I could from everyone I met. Slowly, I started producing, mixing, and eventually, people began to recognize the sounds I was creating. It wasn’t overnight, far from it. It involved a lot of no’s, a lot of doors slammed in my face, and a ton of perseverance. But every setback was a setup for a comeback.

Paolo: Wanting to get a career in art is one of the toughest things to do, isn't?

Mookie: Yeah, be prepared. You're getting in the ring with seventeen Mike Tysons every day, all day, with a never-ending bout. And the people who hold the keys to your success are not friendly and they're super busy and they don't give a shit about anybody at all. Or even pretend to.

Paolo: So just trying to get their attention is a full-time job.

Mookie: Absolutely! I kept pushing, kept evolving my style, and here I am. Sharing my story is crucial. I realized my journey wasn't just for me but for others. Sharing my experiences can provide hope and encouragement. It's about continuing despite challenges and knowing you're not alone. That's why I wrote the book. To encourage the next generation and remind them to keep going. Life is a continuation, and it's about being true to yourself.

Paolo: You mentioned your children a few times. How has fatherhood influenced your journey?

Mookie: Fatherhood has been one of the most significant influences in my life. It taught me responsibility and gave me a new sense of purpose. My children are my motivation to keep going. I want to set an example for them and show them that with hard work and determination, they can achieve their dreams.

Balancing a career in the arts with family life can be challenging. It's a constant juggling act, but I've learned to prioritize. I make sure to be present for my children and support them in their endeavors. At the same time, I pursue my passions and continue to grow as an artist. It's about finding that balance and ensuring that neither aspect of my life is neglected.

My father's influence extended beyond music. He instilled in me a sense of discipline and resilience that has carried me through life's challenges. His strictness and high standards pushed me to strive for excellence in everything I do. At the same time, my mom's gentleness and love for classical music provided a counterbalance. Her influence helped me find peace and purpose in my passion for music.

Success is about staying true to yourself and your passion. It's not just about accolades or recognition. It's about finding fulfillment in what you do and continuing to grow. Success is a journey, not a destination. It's about making a positive impact and inspiring others along the way.

I wrote the book to share my story and provide hope to others. I realized that my journey wasn't just for me but for others who might be struggling. The book is for my children and the next generation, to remind them that persistence and staying true to yourself are essential.

Paolo: Speaking of perseverance, any particular moments that tested your resolve?

Mookie: Oh, plenty. There was a time I felt crushed when opportunities fizzled out. But I’ve always said to myself, "success or nothing." This mindset turned every setback into a stepping stone. Like the Stoics say, "The obstacle is the way." I embraced every challenge as a path forward.

I believe my experiences, especially the struggles and how I've overcome them, serve as a beacon for others. Whether it's in my music or when I speak at seminars, I share these stories to inspire. If my journey can motivate even one person to persevere through their challenges, then sharing it is worth it.

Paolo: With such a wealth of experience, one would think that there is a way of teaching people how to make it in the music business. Isn't it? Maybe you could actually come up with a training.

Mookie: Oh, I would love that! There’s nothing more gratifying than passing on what you’ve learned. I’ve been involved in music programs for youth here in Charleston, giving talks, and workshops whenever I can. It’s about lighting that spark in the next generation, showing them that their voice matters, and that music can be a powerful tool for change.

Paolo: Looking back, any regrets or things you’d do differently?

Mookie: Not exactly regrets, but looking back, I see things I could've handled differently, especially balancing personal relationships and my career. But every choice was a learning moment, and it's all contributed to who I am today.

Paolo: And for those looking to follow in your footsteps, any advice?

Mookie: Stay true to your art and yourself. Understand that the industry has its highs and lows; prepare for both. Remember that it is indeed an industry. Making money is paramount. You have to reconcile your music with the commercial aspect of it. And remember, it's not just about talent but also about how you adapt and persevere through adversity. Keep pushing, keep evolving.

Paolo: Mookie, it's been profoundly inspiring talking to you. Your journey through music and life offers hope and direction to many.

Mookie: Thanks, Paolo. If my journey inspires even one person to follow their passion or helps them through a tough time, then all the challenges were worth it. Keep pushing, keep playing, and keep dreaming.